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		<title>By: Chandler Chiropracto</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-6314</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandler Chiropracto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Nov 2010 19:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a great article for many reasons, the most important is based on our judgement of others. It is so easy for me to look at other people&#039;s shopping carts in the grocery store and assume all sorts of things about them and their eating habits. Thanks for the enlightenment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a great article for many reasons, the most important is based on our judgement of others. It is so easy for me to look at other people&#8217;s shopping carts in the grocery store and assume all sorts of things about them and their eating habits. Thanks for the enlightenment.</p>
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		<title>By: Fat body, open mind &#171; Spilt Milk</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-6286</link>
		<dc:creator>Fat body, open mind &#171; Spilt Milk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Nov 2010 03:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The net result of that knowledge and those characteristics was not that I magically learned how to eat competently despite all the messages I was getting from the culture surrounding me, nor was it that I [...]</description>
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		<title>By: your daily dose of sadness &#171; Wreckage Found Floating</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-6194</link>
		<dc:creator>your daily dose of sadness &#171; Wreckage Found Floating</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 16:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Acceptance Is Not Giving Up: Elizabeth from Spilt Milk &#124; DISCOURSE</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-6107</link>
		<dc:creator>Acceptance Is Not Giving Up: Elizabeth from Spilt Milk &#124; DISCOURSE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Aug 2010 05:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some reference to the increased well-being that can be found through enjoyment of movement and eating competence, there still remains a misconception that Fat Acceptance is only about being [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Acceptance is not &#8216;giving up&#8217; &#171; Spilt Milk</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-6102</link>
		<dc:creator>Acceptance is not &#8216;giving up&#8217; &#171; Spilt Milk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 05:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] some reference to the increased well-being that can be found through enjoyment of movement and eating competence, there still remains a misconception that Fat Acceptance is only about being [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4923</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 19:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve had this issue too. I dealt with it by always, always wrapping up leftover food and putting it away in the fridge for later. And then I gave myself permission to throw it out if it seemed stale later on.

But putting it away, rather than throwing it away directly off my plate, seemed to somehow ease the anxiety/guilt associated with it. And sometimes I just needed reassurance that, if I got hungry an hour after finishing my meal, the rest of it would still be waiting for me. This helped with that as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve had this issue too. I dealt with it by always, always wrapping up leftover food and putting it away in the fridge for later. And then I gave myself permission to throw it out if it seemed stale later on.</p>
<p>But putting it away, rather than throwing it away directly off my plate, seemed to somehow ease the anxiety/guilt associated with it. And sometimes I just needed reassurance that, if I got hungry an hour after finishing my meal, the rest of it would still be waiting for me. This helped with that as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Lampdevil</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4920</link>
		<dc:creator>Lampdevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, to fully shake that desire to clean my plate!  I have to keep telling myself, over and over, that it&#039;s OKAY to not eat everything in front of me if I&#039;m not really hungry for it!  I grew up being lectured about the poor starving children overseas... and then as an adult with little cash to spare, the thought of WASTING FOOD gave me a bad case of the vapors.  It&#039;s... it&#039;s food! I CAN&#039;T WASTE IT. I may NEVER have fries AGAIN, so I&#039;d better EAT ALL OF THEM.

I&#039;m getting better, slowly.  I still hate waste.  I&#039;m learning ways to deal with it. (Why hello, hungry friends of mine! Would you like some leftover pasta? Some soup?  Some baked goods that I cannot possibly finish on my own? You would? Oh, yay!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, to fully shake that desire to clean my plate!  I have to keep telling myself, over and over, that it&#8217;s OKAY to not eat everything in front of me if I&#8217;m not really hungry for it!  I grew up being lectured about the poor starving children overseas&#8230; and then as an adult with little cash to spare, the thought of WASTING FOOD gave me a bad case of the vapors.  It&#8217;s&#8230; it&#8217;s food! I CAN&#8217;T WASTE IT. I may NEVER have fries AGAIN, so I&#8217;d better EAT ALL OF THEM.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m getting better, slowly.  I still hate waste.  I&#8217;m learning ways to deal with it. (Why hello, hungry friends of mine! Would you like some leftover pasta? Some soup?  Some baked goods that I cannot possibly finish on my own? You would? Oh, yay!)</p>
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		<title>By: Lampdevil</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4919</link>
		<dc:creator>Lampdevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:10:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Medication very much has the potential to eff with your eating competence.  I know I&#039;ve started on some new meds that have thrown off my hard-won personal dietary balance.  They&#039;ve got a diuretic effect, but attempting to drink more water than I already do makes me queasy, literally.  And then I have to monitor and police my overall caffiene consumption, or I&#039;ll take a zillion bathroom trips and feel crappy. I&#039;m currently expermenting to see if having a few gulps of sports drink throughout the day proves useful at all, and and and...

I still seem to understand my system and my needs well enough to address them in a healthy fashion.  One doesn&#039;t have to inhabit a perfect body to have good eating habits.  One simply has to know what works for you, and how to healthily work around limitations.  This isn&#039;t a contest to see who is the MOST COMPETENT OF ALL.  It looks more like a good yardstick, to me.  A helpful suggestion.  A frame of reference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medication very much has the potential to eff with your eating competence.  I know I&#8217;ve started on some new meds that have thrown off my hard-won personal dietary balance.  They&#8217;ve got a diuretic effect, but attempting to drink more water than I already do makes me queasy, literally.  And then I have to monitor and police my overall caffiene consumption, or I&#8217;ll take a zillion bathroom trips and feel crappy. I&#8217;m currently expermenting to see if having a few gulps of sports drink throughout the day proves useful at all, and and and&#8230;</p>
<p>I still seem to understand my system and my needs well enough to address them in a healthy fashion.  One doesn&#8217;t have to inhabit a perfect body to have good eating habits.  One simply has to know what works for you, and how to healthily work around limitations.  This isn&#8217;t a contest to see who is the MOST COMPETENT OF ALL.  It looks more like a good yardstick, to me.  A helpful suggestion.  A frame of reference.</p>
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		<title>By: Different approaches to eating &#171; Zaftig Zeitgeist</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4908</link>
		<dc:creator>Different approaches to eating &#171; Zaftig Zeitgeist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 07:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] four factors of eating competence are mentioned in The Fat Nutritionist&#8217;s post &#8220;Getting good at eating&#8220;. Eating competence is stressed as descriptive, not prescriptive. If you are happy with the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4896</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 01:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To anyone with qualms about Ellyn Satter&#039;s methods for children, I&#039;d encourage you to read Katja&#039;s blog post on her daughter&#039;s refusal to drink milk:

http://familyfeedingdynamics.blogspot.com/2010/03/my-kid-is-drinking-milk-again-finally.html

If anything isn&#039;t bullying, it&#039;s this method, which Katja uses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To anyone with qualms about Ellyn Satter&#8217;s methods for children, I&#8217;d encourage you to read Katja&#8217;s blog post on her daughter&#8217;s refusal to drink milk:</p>
<p><a href="http://familyfeedingdynamics.blogspot.com/2010/03/my-kid-is-drinking-milk-again-finally.html" rel="nofollow">http://familyfeedingdynamics.blogspot.com/2010/03/my-kid-is-drinking-milk-again-finally.html</a></p>
<p>If anything isn&#8217;t bullying, it&#8217;s this method, which Katja uses.</p>
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		<title>By: La</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4880</link>
		<dc:creator>La</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Debbie - 

Take from me....be happy with 160#. It&#039;s not a ridiculous weight. I have long wanted to kick myself in the ass for not being happier with myself when I was much smaller than I am now. If I had, I may not have grown to be over 300# because I wouldn&#039;t have tried all those weird diets, exercise and starvation and my metabolism wouldn&#039;t have been destroyed.

So, seriously, really do understand that you are fine just the way you are. If your weight doesn&#039;t change no matter what you eat....obvious, your genetics cause you to weigh 160. Love yourself just the way you are!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debbie &#8211; </p>
<p>Take from me&#8230;.be happy with 160#. It&#8217;s not a ridiculous weight. I have long wanted to kick myself in the ass for not being happier with myself when I was much smaller than I am now. If I had, I may not have grown to be over 300# because I wouldn&#8217;t have tried all those weird diets, exercise and starvation and my metabolism wouldn&#8217;t have been destroyed.</p>
<p>So, seriously, really do understand that you are fine just the way you are. If your weight doesn&#8217;t change no matter what you eat&#8230;.obvious, your genetics cause you to weigh 160. Love yourself just the way you are!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4864</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:32:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting! Thank you for adding that insight. I think you&#039;re onto something there about food traditions.

There is a strange paradox about enjoying food more, but ultimately thinking about it LESS, and finding it less burdensome, that seems to occur when people improve their eating competence. I think you&#039;ve described the same thing in your example of your husband&#039;s traditions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting! Thank you for adding that insight. I think you&#8217;re onto something there about food traditions.</p>
<p>There is a strange paradox about enjoying food more, but ultimately thinking about it LESS, and finding it less burdensome, that seems to occur when people improve their eating competence. I think you&#8217;ve described the same thing in your example of your husband&#8217;s traditions.</p>
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		<title>By: beatrix</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4863</link>
		<dc:creator>beatrix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a fabulous blog and I&#039;m disappointed not to have found it sooner!

I just wanted to say that I love Ellyn Satter and this whole concept that you describe of competent/&quot;happy&quot; eating, of finding the balance between eating 100% on intuition and planning some aspects of eating.

My comment is that I believe these things are particularly difficult to accomplish in American/late capitalist culture, because our food cultures and traditions have broken down.  My husband is from a European country where people still mostly eat the same way:  at the same times every day, a range of traditional (homemade) dishes, AT home most of the time.  Eating is a social, joyful occasion around which the rest of life centers.  Meals are never a time for restriction but an occasion to nourish the body and to relax, and to ENJOY THE TASTE OF FOOD.

Everything is so ritualized there that you don&#039;t really have to think about &#039;what to eat&#039;.  Eating is more labor intensive but because the food shopping, food preparation, the serving of the food, and the eating of it are all done basically in the same way (with many little variations of course, it&#039;s not like they eat the same exact recipes every day!), much of the labor is totally automatic and doesn&#039;t cause the least bit of anxiety.

Here in the U.S. most people are not able to eat in such a context.  We must think about food more, and we are less likely to be able to have stable, predictable, enjoyable, social meals as a matter of course.  I think recreating a healthy food culture is the best way (if the most daunting) to create &quot;competent eaters&quot; who are HyAES.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a fabulous blog and I&#8217;m disappointed not to have found it sooner!</p>
<p>I just wanted to say that I love Ellyn Satter and this whole concept that you describe of competent/&#8221;happy&#8221; eating, of finding the balance between eating 100% on intuition and planning some aspects of eating.</p>
<p>My comment is that I believe these things are particularly difficult to accomplish in American/late capitalist culture, because our food cultures and traditions have broken down.  My husband is from a European country where people still mostly eat the same way:  at the same times every day, a range of traditional (homemade) dishes, AT home most of the time.  Eating is a social, joyful occasion around which the rest of life centers.  Meals are never a time for restriction but an occasion to nourish the body and to relax, and to ENJOY THE TASTE OF FOOD.</p>
<p>Everything is so ritualized there that you don&#8217;t really have to think about &#8216;what to eat&#8217;.  Eating is more labor intensive but because the food shopping, food preparation, the serving of the food, and the eating of it are all done basically in the same way (with many little variations of course, it&#8217;s not like they eat the same exact recipes every day!), much of the labor is totally automatic and doesn&#8217;t cause the least bit of anxiety.</p>
<p>Here in the U.S. most people are not able to eat in such a context.  We must think about food more, and we are less likely to be able to have stable, predictable, enjoyable, social meals as a matter of course.  I think recreating a healthy food culture is the best way (if the most daunting) to create &#8220;competent eaters&#8221; who are HyAES.</p>
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		<title>By: The Raisin Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4856</link>
		<dc:creator>The Raisin Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m in my junior year of college, and since my freshman year my eating habits have been all over the place, and my feelings about food have been really unhealthy. I felt guilty for eating certain foods. I even felt gross for eating some foods. My roommate sophomore year was a really--I don&#039;t know how to describe it exactly, but maybe &quot;militaristic&quot; type of person. The type who has all these ultra-healthy, almost puritan living habits that they not only practice themselves, but encourage you to practice. I would always get disapproval vibes when I ate snacks or drank coffee, or took medicine for headaches (she considered ibuprofen for weak people). That and the stress of being at college really screwed my relationship with food, I think, and I&#039;m just barely managing to get back to a good place with it now. What finally helped me, in fact, was something on a blog called Painfully Hip. It&#039;s a fashion blog, but once she posted an interview where she said that her secret to staying healthy was &quot;the deliciousness diet,&quot; i.e. &quot;if it isn&#039;t delicious, it isn&#039;t going in my mouth.&quot;

Between that and the concept that I don&#039;t need a diet to tell me how to eat right, I&#039;m slowly learning to be food-guilt-free, eat when I&#039;m hungry and eat what I want. Finally!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m in my junior year of college, and since my freshman year my eating habits have been all over the place, and my feelings about food have been really unhealthy. I felt guilty for eating certain foods. I even felt gross for eating some foods. My roommate sophomore year was a really&#8211;I don&#8217;t know how to describe it exactly, but maybe &#8220;militaristic&#8221; type of person. The type who has all these ultra-healthy, almost puritan living habits that they not only practice themselves, but encourage you to practice. I would always get disapproval vibes when I ate snacks or drank coffee, or took medicine for headaches (she considered ibuprofen for weak people). That and the stress of being at college really screwed my relationship with food, I think, and I&#8217;m just barely managing to get back to a good place with it now. What finally helped me, in fact, was something on a blog called Painfully Hip. It&#8217;s a fashion blog, but once she posted an interview where she said that her secret to staying healthy was &#8220;the deliciousness diet,&#8221; i.e. &#8220;if it isn&#8217;t delicious, it isn&#8217;t going in my mouth.&#8221;</p>
<p>Between that and the concept that I don&#8217;t need a diet to tell me how to eat right, I&#8217;m slowly learning to be food-guilt-free, eat when I&#8217;m hungry and eat what I want. Finally!</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4851</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bookwyrm, I&#039;m sorry. Now I feel a bit awful about this. I hope you&#039;ll be up to discussing this more in future posts, because I think your questions are important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bookwyrm, I&#8217;m sorry. Now I feel a bit awful about this. I hope you&#8217;ll be up to discussing this more in future posts, because I think your questions are important.</p>
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		<title>By: Bookwyrm</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4850</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookwyrm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologise; I didn&#039;t mean to be disruptive.</description>
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		<title>By: mickey</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4849</link>
		<dc:creator>mickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have used both - canned or dried.  But canned beans up here are freaking expensive, so I&#039;ve been trying to use more and more dried beans.  These do require a bit more planning: Soak the beans for a few hours (starting with boiling water), cook for 1 hour or so to your liking, and mash up (or not).  Opening a can is easier.  Either way, I lurve me some bean burritos, and recently they HAVE TO HAVE lettuce on them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have used both &#8211; canned or dried.  But canned beans up here are freaking expensive, so I&#8217;ve been trying to use more and more dried beans.  These do require a bit more planning: Soak the beans for a few hours (starting with boiling water), cook for 1 hour or so to your liking, and mash up (or not).  Opening a can is easier.  Either way, I lurve me some bean burritos, and recently they HAVE TO HAVE lettuce on them.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
		<link>http://www.fatnutritionist.com/index.php/getting-good-at-eating/#comment-4847</link>
		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;I have to admit to being confused about why you don’t see why some people are critical of these ideas.&lt;/em&gt;

I guess what I don&#039;t understand is where people are actually attributing things to Satter, and her model, that aren&#039;t actually true. I have a pretty intimate knowledge of the model, and I can say with confidence that many of these interpretations are actually false on an objective level, though I understand where those intepretations are coming from -- whether it&#039;s past personal experience, or cultural pressures and messages. But I think it&#039;s important to try to get past those interpretations in order to discuss what Satter is actually saying and promoting -- misinterpreting her message based on a personal associations, while understandable, is a bit derailing to the topic at hand.

I also think that we haven&#039;t gotten (yet) into more of the complexities of either eating competence as a model, or Satter&#039;s methods of feeding children, which means we haven&#039;t yet even touched on how you&#039;d deal with dyspraxia, or other therapeutic issues and restrictions. We will get there eventually, and I do think most of Satter&#039;s model is adaptable to these realities. But I cannot write a blog post that is going to encompass every possibility right from the get-go. 

I&#039;m genuinely sorry for that, and I do try very hard in most of my posts to add footnotes and parenthetical asides denoting where exceptions occur, but obviously I didn&#039;t do that this time.

I also want to add that disability is an important issue for me, and I&#039;m trying to be a lot more aware of how what I say and what I practice applies to disability. But I am fairly new at this, and I don&#039;t always succeed. That&#039;s why I rely so much on my commenters to add complexity to the discussion that I am, &lt;em&gt;guaranteed,&lt;/em&gt; going to leave out in my posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>I have to admit to being confused about why you don’t see why some people are critical of these ideas.</em></p>
<p>I guess what I don&#8217;t understand is where people are actually attributing things to Satter, and her model, that aren&#8217;t actually true. I have a pretty intimate knowledge of the model, and I can say with confidence that many of these interpretations are actually false on an objective level, though I understand where those intepretations are coming from &#8212; whether it&#8217;s past personal experience, or cultural pressures and messages. But I think it&#8217;s important to try to get past those interpretations in order to discuss what Satter is actually saying and promoting &#8212; misinterpreting her message based on a personal associations, while understandable, is a bit derailing to the topic at hand.</p>
<p>I also think that we haven&#8217;t gotten (yet) into more of the complexities of either eating competence as a model, or Satter&#8217;s methods of feeding children, which means we haven&#8217;t yet even touched on how you&#8217;d deal with dyspraxia, or other therapeutic issues and restrictions. We will get there eventually, and I do think most of Satter&#8217;s model is adaptable to these realities. But I cannot write a blog post that is going to encompass every possibility right from the get-go. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m genuinely sorry for that, and I do try very hard in most of my posts to add footnotes and parenthetical asides denoting where exceptions occur, but obviously I didn&#8217;t do that this time.</p>
<p>I also want to add that disability is an important issue for me, and I&#8217;m trying to be a lot more aware of how what I say and what I practice applies to disability. But I am fairly new at this, and I don&#8217;t always succeed. That&#8217;s why I rely so much on my commenters to add complexity to the discussion that I am, <em>guaranteed,</em> going to leave out in my posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Michelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only have a quick minute, but I want to thank you for your comment, and for adding some complexity to this discussion.

I also want to say that not being able to try a lot of new foods does not make you eating incompetent. It is only one factor among several, and it is still possible to score well on eating competence even if you have certain difficulties and obstacles with eating caused by a disability. The assessment for eating competence takes into account many different behaviours, and degrees of behaviour -- meaning that people who are eating competent are still going to have a range of diverse habits and practices around food, while still meeting some basic criteria that makes them score highly on the test.

The wording of &quot;competence&quot; (aside from obviously not being my invention) is problematic in some ways; I can&#039;t deny that. People ARE going to interpret it in a specific way, largely because of the pressures of the culture we live in and the assumptions we make about eating and people&#039;s value as human beings based on their eating habits. However, I have to accept that words are only ever rough and imperfect proxies for complex concepts. I&#039;m not even sure that there is a term that could appropriately describe what the concept of &quot;eating competence&quot; describes without being problematic in some way.

I&#039;ve just come to accept that the term, while far from perfect, is at least a roughly functional term for a very useful concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only have a quick minute, but I want to thank you for your comment, and for adding some complexity to this discussion.</p>
<p>I also want to say that not being able to try a lot of new foods does not make you eating incompetent. It is only one factor among several, and it is still possible to score well on eating competence even if you have certain difficulties and obstacles with eating caused by a disability. The assessment for eating competence takes into account many different behaviours, and degrees of behaviour &#8212; meaning that people who are eating competent are still going to have a range of diverse habits and practices around food, while still meeting some basic criteria that makes them score highly on the test.</p>
<p>The wording of &#8220;competence&#8221; (aside from obviously not being my invention) is problematic in some ways; I can&#8217;t deny that. People ARE going to interpret it in a specific way, largely because of the pressures of the culture we live in and the assumptions we make about eating and people&#8217;s value as human beings based on their eating habits. However, I have to accept that words are only ever rough and imperfect proxies for complex concepts. I&#8217;m not even sure that there is a term that could appropriately describe what the concept of &#8220;eating competence&#8221; describes without being problematic in some way.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve just come to accept that the term, while far from perfect, is at least a roughly functional term for a very useful concept.</p>
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		<title>By: Cassi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cassi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 17:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear you had a crappy doctor, glad you found a better one.  I just wanted to throw the possibility out there because I, personally, spent a decade in psychotherapy over a supposedly stress related condition only to find I had a physical problem... you can imagine that I was not a happy camper.  

Doritos, by the way, are way better than saltines even when you&#039;re NOT sick ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear you had a crappy doctor, glad you found a better one.  I just wanted to throw the possibility out there because I, personally, spent a decade in psychotherapy over a supposedly stress related condition only to find I had a physical problem&#8230; you can imagine that I was not a happy camper.  </p>
<p>Doritos, by the way, are way better than saltines even when you&#8217;re NOT sick ;)</p>
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